Deliverance Follows Obedience


Deliverance Follows Obedience
Prepare your heart to seek God for obedience that you may observe and do all that Christ has commanded through His holy apostles.
"For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve Him with one consent." (Zephaniah 3:9)

Sunday, May 26, 2013

The Spirit of God comes not to confirm you but to confirm Christ


One of the saints offered the following edifying sacrifices:

Faith cannot work with false knowledge, and brings you to death
But by the Grace of God and His knowledge and by giving
charity you are identify the kingdom of God and receive healing And tethering our soul to God, that make us Holy and perfect in Faith

I wanted to expound on this a bit:

The Spirit of God will not confirm the lie. The lie comes from resourcing one's own understanding as the record for faith instead of Christ as received by instruction from His living apostles.

People often try to claim they no longer have need for apostles but they fail to notice that the apostles wrote about laying the foundation of truth in the hearts of believers but never put that doctrine in writing. It would be like trying to learn to function in the Levitical priesthood by scriptures alone... wouldn't get far.

So also with Christ. Apostles are sent by Him to instruct. Without this foundation knowledge, we are left to role playing games as we see everywhere we look in this dark dimension. There is no reality in that. Without stewardship, even hearing the voice of God and receiving gifts from Him is of none effect.

1 Corinthians 13:1
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

1 Corinthians 13:2
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

1 Corinthians 13:3
And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

Charity and truth are twins. Charity is the expression of truth from the anointing. Without experiencing Christ in us, we cannot give expression to Christ from the anointing. Our words would therefore reflect confusion and could not clarify, direct, or draw faith. The Spirit cannot work with the sowing of darkness EVEN if we sprinkle our communication with words like "Jesus", "Christ", "Spirit", "God", "Tether", "Tutor", etc...

Apostle Paul is bringing this to the attention of those who were struggling in the faith. They were struggling because of a disconnect in their understanding. They were not properly handling the doctrine provided to them and without maintaining the purity of this knowledge, it becomes of none effect for those who remove it from the altar and priesthood of Christ.

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Saturday, May 25, 2013

New name in Christ: None shall be known of Him by the letter


While sinners who lay claim to know God always stand confident in themselves, they lack confidence in Christ.

The Lord knows every one of His by name and His Spirit and Word abides in them as they also abide in Him by His Spirit and Word.

For though we were only assigned a letter when sent into this dimension, He also assigned a name for all those who return back to Him and will reveal this to us upon our homecoming.

Isaiah 62:2, Revelation 2:17

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The Bible is NOT the Word of God. The Bible is NOT Truth... Christ is

Some wish to define truth as “what the Bible says”.  This appears to simplify the definition of truth. But the Bible is not truth, it is paper and ink. We can all pick up the Bible and read the same words and draw different conclusions as to what is consistent to God’s character, purpose, and plan. Hence we all define truth (the plan of God concerning Christ) differently even though we all read the same Bible.

God does NOT inspire man’s imagination with scripture. It is the truth that is contained in the Bible that is inspired by God. This is why the apostle Peter warned, “...no prophecy of the scripture is of any PRIVATE interpretation,” (see 2 Peter 1:20).  And while many freely quote this scripture; it seems strange that they openly break this commandment by interpreting scripture “privately” despite the warning. (See also 2 Peter 3:16)

“Private” interpretation of scripture means: Scripture is given meaning outside of the structure of government Jesus set in place to deliver truth in pure form to the Body of Christ. It means that people are seeking to know God’s plan without that measure of grace that God uses to oversee His truth.

God created us and set within us powers of curiosity and imagination. Because of the fall of Adam these powers work against us. We cannot find truth through following vain imaginations. The understanding of truth must be granted to mankind by God because it exists outside the common experience of mankind.

While we recognize that all scripture is inspired by God, we must state that NOT all interpretation of scripture is inspired by God. Believers try to set up some safeguards; things they feel would “protect” them from committing the sin of privately interpreting the scriptures. The first thing they do is pray, “Holy Spirit teach me.” The second thing they do is go through a check list to make sure that their interpretation conforms to an acceptable standard.

But we would have to be blind not to see that this system of determining truth from scripture is not working. Believers are all coming up with different ideas about what the plan of God is for man’s redemption, and different ways of believing in God based on what we have interpreted from the Bible despite these safeguards.

We know that the Holy Spirit is not confused; He is not teaching each Christian a different truth, so the error does not lie with the Holy Ghost. The error lies with the system we have chosen to reveal truth.

Those who privately interpret the scriptures are trying to claim a truth from scripture without possessing truth itself. They have forgotten that truth originates from Jesus Christ Himself and that He oversees a system or government through which He reveals that pattern of our contact with Him.

When speaking of a “system” or “government” we are speaking of the KINGDOM of God. Every kingdom has a system of government through which the king rules. Jesus is the King that rules in the kingdom of God through the government and system of His own choosing.

We see His system of government in His kingdom consistently in the book of Acts and throughout the epistles that the apostles wrote. For example we read in Ephesians 2:20, “And are built upon the foundation of the APOSTLES and PROPHETS, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone.”

Ephesians 4:11, “And He gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers.”

The kingdom of Jesus Christ, His system of government, begins with Himself. He then gives a measure of grace to the apostles to instruct the church. This is the message that the prophets confirm, the evangelists preach, the teachers teach, and the pastors oversee in the hearts of the saints.

Jesus will not deviate from this system of delivering TRUTH to His Church which is not brick and steeple but His living Body speaking with One voice from One perspective and One common experience. (Luke 11:34, Jude 1:3)

Acts 1:2 - We see that Jesus gave His apostles the commandments to give to the church.

Acts 2:42 - We see that the church continued steadfastly in the apostles doctrine.

1 Corinthians 4:1 - We see that the apostles were called living stewards of the mysteries of God.

2 Peter 3:2 - We are reminded to keep in memory the commandments of the apostles.

Ephesians 1:9 - We are told that the apostles received the knowledge of the mystery of God.

The Word of God is NOT paper and ink, and the Power of God is not made manifest through paper and ink.

Because of the lack of understanding concerning grace and the manifestation of the Spirit in the assembly, the Church became satisfied with applying scripture and biblical analysis to their problems. This is NOT working with the Spirit to overcome iniquity, but working with the flesh for the fulfillment of our own curiosity and desire to change. (James 1:5)

In reviewing Hebrews 11, we see that in order to please God one must be obedient to the grace of God. Grace precedes faith. These two elements of the gospel look like this: G + F = RIGHTEOUSNESS. Jesus Christ is the righteousness of God and when faith is drawn by and a reflection of grace as issued by God from above, then faith meets the expectations of God perfectly.

Those who lack instruction by living apostles in the correct sequencing of the 12 elements of the gospel put faith before grace.  They try to be obedient to God without first receiving the grace of God. This is because they thought the revelation of God centered on their needs and they could claim “by faith” what God had provided for their needs. But God has provided Jesus Christ for salvation and the revelation of God centers on God and His plan, not on our needs.

When the gospel centers on the needs of man then believers try to walk in the love of God without the grace of God; they try to walk in the truth of God without the grace of God.

Believers  have been erroneously taught to put their faith into scripture; to go to the  Bible for revelation and communication from God about their needs because  God is  now  supposed  to disclose His will and  make  Himself  known through paper and ink. THIS IS NOT SO. Faith must be set in Christ who IS the living Word of God. The Word of God is the person of Christ, the scriptures testify of Him but are NOT Him. (John 5:37-40)

Those who do not understand the grace of God teach others to “act upon” what they have understood from scripture, thinking that God will empower this action upon scripture and will approve of it, calling this thing they do with scripture faith in Him. Grace is then misrepresented to be God's favor towards them because they have demonstrated their “faith” by acting on scripture.

This pattern is NOT in the covenant of Jesus Christ; this pattern is NOT taught by living apostles of Jesus Christ; this pattern will NOT bear forth fruit to Jesus Christ.

This pattern demonstrates hypocrisy (pretended obedience to God). Under the influence of this pattern the elements now read: F - G = HYPOCRISY (faith minus grace equals hypocrisy) instead of G + F = RIGHTEOUSNESS as we described earlier. Trying to walk by faith without grace means that we are allowing vain imaginations to set the standard for our obedience to God.

Jesus uses Himself as the pattern for change; Jesus uses Himself as the point of contact. The spirit of our mind is renewed by the knowledge we gain when we experience the Spirit of Christ transforming the old to become new as He creates His likeness in the inner man.

It must be clearly stated that the divine power for divine change does NOT come through reading the scriptures; it comes through our daily experience with the power and presence of Jesus Christ. (2 Peter 1:3-4, John 14:21)

He is the LIVING WORD of God, the LIVING PATTERN, the living model, method, mold, design, impression that God uses to give a new inspiration to the spirit of our mind to follow. The "Word of God" is not paper and ink! (John 1:1; 1 John 1:1; Hebrews 4:12)

The Bible is NOT this living pattern, the Bible is scripture --- the written record of what the pattern looks like, to confirm what the salvation of God is, and how to work with it (which interpretation needs the oversight of God-called, living apostles who are ambassadors of His kingdom who function on behalf of His interests and not their own.)

The Body must come together in one mind concerning the work of the Spirit.

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Colossians 1:15-16 (S8W Ministries Online Assembly)

The expectation of our hope is sustained by the Lord by the tokens of grace which strengthens us in the time of trouble and contradiction of sinners.The thief comes to steal our fellowship with God by setting fellowship within the distortions of the mind. God draws back the curtain of deception that we may be true to Him, teaching us to separate our thoughts to the covenant terms provided for our faith.


If you’d like to come into covenant with God, you have to begin to seek God. You’re also going to have to put aside the barriers of your former traditions and your mindset. You’re going to have to seek Him with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength if you want to come into covenant with God. His grace will abound towards those who seek Him out of a pure heart. – Apostle Eric vonAnderseck 

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Not all men have faith. The called, chosen, and faithful remnant shall be saved

We all have access to grace in Christ. But not all show willingness to receive from Him. Most in fact choose to stand in their own prejudices and light their way by that which they can see naturally.

It's important to make clear though that Jesus is not our substitute but our propitiation. He did not make a summary trade with us. He died on the cross for our benefit. He was fulfilling His plan from before the foundation of the world and opening the door for the purging of our consciences by the engrafting of His Spirit, instruction in doctrine, and the taking on of His own substance within our hearts through the operation of God in us.

It is the remnant that shall be received back to Him in glory. Not the common rock from the soil but those who withstood testing and purification by the work of His Spirit in them as they stood fast in the faith against the blowing of every wind.

God always makes a selection from a selection from a selection...

Revelation 17:14
These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, AND chosen, AND faithful.

Matthew 22:14
For many are called, but few are chosen.

2 Thessalonians 3:2
And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.

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Does God accept your faith?


The scriptures were written by those who were experiencing the Spirit of God working with them as they worked within the restrictions revealed by God for faith.

Faith follows after grace. When "faith" precedes grace, it is cursed by God and called aspiration which works not with the Spirit of God but with the imagination of man doing only that which seems right in his own sight.

Judges 17:6
In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

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This is not your daddy's religion

The doctrine which we receive of Christ by instruction through His living stewardship prepares us for our labor with the divine power of His Spirit at His altar. 

By man's religion, we were taught to seek God's honor and pleasure by using our gifts and talents we find within ourselves. We were taught that God gave us these things for this purpose.

We now know that these doctrines were of man and not of God and were driven by the spirit of anti-Christ and were not inspired by the Holy Spirit of God who we can recognize after our separation, cleansing, and preparation for the spiritual priesthood of Christ.

We are now pleasing Him only with those things of His Spirit which proceed forth from Him for faith in Christ. God gave us unique gifts and talents to function in this world, not in the house of Christ. God gives us of His Spirit and Truth for our function of faith in the offering up of spiritual sacrifices sanctioned for use in His Name.

2 Peter 2:1-12

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Sunday, May 19, 2013

John 17:1-3 (S8W Ministries Online Assembly)

God the Father gives eternal life to those following His true record for faith in Christ and will not grant such power to those who rebel against His stewardship.



If you’d like to come into covenant with God, you have to begin to seek God. You’re also going to have to put aside the barriers of your former traditions and your mindset. You’re going to have to seek Him with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength if you want to come into covenant with God. His grace will abound towards those who seek Him out of a pure heart. – Apostle Eric vonAnderseck 

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Sunday, May 12, 2013

Deeper Things (S8W Ministries Online Assembly)

Let no man deny you of our true hope in Christ. 

By the Word of God we enter the fullness of Christ dimming the lights of our aspirations to walk according to His commandments.

Jesus is the true Door into the Father's Bosom sitting in the gate of judgement He determines the rewards of the righteous but casts the wicked away.



If you’d like to come into covenant with God, you have to begin to seek God. You’re also going to have to put aside the barriers of your former traditions and your mindset. You’re going to have to seek Him with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength if you want to come into covenant with God. His grace will abound towards those who seek Him out of a pure heart. – Apostle Eric vonAnderseck 

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John Welty is a confirmed Apostle in the government of God and valued member of Apostles Today Network of the Second 8th Week, ministering the grace of God to those seeking to build upon the true foundation of Jesus Christ. He is a regular contributor to the Prophetic Path and teaches Body ministry, helping believers regain their Christian priesthood by learning how spiritual sacrifices of prophecy work, how the anointing of truth works, and how the spiritual tools of the Second Covenant work. As God brings the church into a new era, Apostle John is here to help guide your faith into the new work of the Spirit, pray for you, and answer your questions.

Doing what we can do

I heard this line during a preview of the soon to be released Star Trek movie, "I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I only know what I can do."

This speaks quite well to the state of Adam in darkness. Why don't they know? Because they think its impossible to know. They think they can effect change without knowing the purpose of their existence. They think their part its to do what they feel they CAN do.

Luke  18:27 And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
What are these things? Knowing the mind of Christ. Jesus was explaining to His apostles that man cannot know what God had concealed from him without being joined to Him. He said, possible WITH God.

What man thinks is possible, is without value to God. Man doing what he can works darkness. This is what Apostle Paul says he counted as dung (Philippians)

We are called to walk above the waters with God through faith in Christ. We have a spiritual priesthood. This spiritual priesthood is not restricted by the law of these waters which condemns. We are carpooled to walk with Him by knowledge with understanding hearts.

We don't do what we can. We obey His voice. And by this, the waters part before us as we follow after His Spirit working with His His selected steward.

(Matthew 14:29, 1 Peter 2:5, Exodus 23:22)

This has been my common daily experience since learning of the covenant knowledge and true hope of Christ 11 years ago. Are you also experiencing this Christ? I write this not to those who yet slumber in darkness but to those who have been awakened and are seeking Him for His Light. You will not find His light in darkness. You can behold Him here and now. His kingdom is at hand. 

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